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Alex Honnold would not prescribe a path to his own daughters. His advice: find the thing you love, learn the skills, and go hard at it. A meaningful life, in his view, means living in line with your values and pursuing what matters to you with everything you have — and the clearest signal you have found it is that it stops feeling like hard work.
When Steven Bartlett asked Honnold what he would tell his two daughters to aim at in life, Honnold's first instinct was to step back from advice altogether. "You do you," he said. That refusal to prescribe is itself the point: a fulfilling life is not a template you can hand to someone else.
Honnold then turned to his own experience with climbing to illustrate why. By any objective measure, professional rock climbing is grueling — hiking uphill with a heavy pack, exposed to cold, wind, and sustained physical discomfort. If someone had told him at the start that he would train for it every day for the rest of his life, he says his first reaction would have been: that sounds like a grind.
But that is not how it felt. As Honnold explains in this episode of The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett, the physical hardship became irrelevant because the love for the activity was genuine. "If you're doing it because you freaking love doing it, it doesn't feel very hard." That distinction — between what looks hard from the outside and what feels hard from the inside — is the core of his framework.
Honnold frames this not as a motivational cliché but as a diagnostic tool. The question is not "what are you good at?" or "what pays well?" It is: what are you drawn to so strongly that the discomfort becomes background noise?
For Honnold, climbing five days a week for 30 years — including approximately 60 ascents of El Capitan via different routes, and the free solo of El Capitan that became the subject of the Oscar-winning Netflix documentary Free Solo — was never experienced as a sacrifice. The effort was real. The suffering was real. The love was stronger than both.
This is the frame he would offer a young person: not a career path, but a litmus test. Find the activity where the grind recedes into the background. Then commit to it fully — build skills, get genuinely good, and pursue it with everything you have. As discussed in The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett, Honnold's broader philosophy consistently links performance to genuine internal motivation rather than external reward.
"There's no hack. You just get really freaking scared over and over for so long. And eventually it's not that scary anymore. But that's a very enduring way to overcome your fear."
Alex Honnold — Professional Rock Climber. Honnold is best known for completing the first free solo of El Capitan in Yosemite, a feat documented in the Oscar-winning Netflix film Free Solo. He has been climbing five days a week for 30 years and has ascended El Capitan approximately 60 times via different routes. His first major free solo was Half Dome in 2008, above a 1,700-to-1,800-foot drop at the crux ledge. His early career was funded by a North Face sponsorship of around $10,000 per year — which he considered ample, given that he was living out of a van at the time. While this particular quote concerns fear rather than career, it captures the same underlying logic: hard things become manageable through sustained, genuine engagement — not shortcuts.
The through-line between Honnold's approach to fear and his approach to career is the same: there is no optimization trick. You find the thing, you do it repeatedly, you get better. The repetition is only sustainable if the love is real. You can hear this argument developed in full in this episode on Listenly.
Honnold lived in a van, did not drink or party by personal preference, and spent his time reading books and climbing. He was nicknamed "the monk" — a reflection of his stripped-back, intensely focused way of life, where minimal possessions meant maximum freedom to climb. Explore this question and others in The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett.
Honnold describes scouting each individual section of a climb with ropes before attempting a free solo, checking every transition between different segments and mentally rehearsing the full sequence until each piece feels fully controlled. The approach is directly transferable to any high-stakes challenge requiring systematic preparation.
Honnold's first year of sponsorship through The North Face paid him approximately $10,000 — which he considered more than enough since he was living in his van and kept his expenses deliberately minimal. The financial baseline was low; the commitment to climbing was total from the start.