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What is the most important piece of relationship advice from a divorce attorney to keep a marriage lasting?
According to world-renowned divorce attorney James Sexton, the most important relationship advice fits into four words: "You're my favorite person." If a partner can genuinely say and mean that phrase — looking back from the end of life — that is the single greatest asset a long-term relationship can have. Everything else, Sexton argues, can be reverse-engineered from that truth.
Four words that a divorce attorney uses to measure every marriage
James Sexton has spent his career watching marriages end. That vantage point gave him a clear-eyed view of what separates the couples who stay from the ones who don't. His answer isn't a communication framework or a set of rules — it's a single question: can you look at this person and call them your favorite?
The phrase is deceptively simple. It isn't about romance or chemistry. It's about accumulated choice — deciding, over and over, across decades of bills, disagreements, career failures, and growing up together, that this person is still the one you'd choose. That's the standard Sexton sets, and it's explored in depth in The Mel Robbins Podcast.
Thirty years of marriage as a real-world test case
Mel Robbins and Christopher Robbins bring this idea to life not as a theory but as lived experience. At the time of recording, they had been together for 30 years and were raising three children, ages 27, 26, and 21. Their marriage survived unemployment, business failure, debt, and extended periods of emotional disconnection — including a decade during which Mel Robbins herself described exhibiting dismissive behavior toward Christopher.
That honesty is exactly what makes Sexton's four-word test feel credible in this episode. It isn't applied to an ideal marriage — it's applied to a real one, with real damage and real repair. Christopher Robbins, who tends to process things internally rather than outwardly, joins this episode of The Mel Robbins Podcast to reflect on what those 30 years actually looked like from the inside.
The deeper point Sexton makes is about authenticity, not perfection. A partner who helped you become the most honest version of yourself — and who you still want to be around — is the benchmark. As he frames it, that's the only wedding toast that actually matters.
This reframe — from "did we have a smooth marriage" to "are you still my favorite person" — is one of the sharpest insights in this conversation on The Mel Robbins Podcast. It shifts the measure of a successful relationship from absence of conflict to presence of genuine preference.
"At the end of your life, if you could look at another person and say, you helped me become the most authentic version of myself, and you're still my favorite person, that's the greatest wedding toast you could ever have."
Christopher Robbins — Husband of Mel Robbins, reflecting on 30 years of marriage. Christopher Robbins pursued an MBA in Boston during their marriage and launched a business that ultimately did not succeed. He went through extended periods of unemployment and financial hardship alongside Mel. Described as a stoic, internal processor, he rarely speaks publicly about their relationship — making his appearance on this episode a rare and direct account of what a long marriage actually demands.
See also
Why does Keir Gaines advocate for therapy and what is his position on people who are skeptical of it?
Gaines strongly advocates for therapy because he sees a gap in people's ability to protect themselves from the overwhelming volume of unsolicited messages they receive daily. He argues that therapy gives people the tools to filter and process that noise rather than internalize it.
How should someone reframe a situation where they collapse a family member's struggle into a personal failure?
Keir Gaines advises asking "what else can this be attributed to?" rather than immediately self-blaming. Using the example of his daughter struggling in school, he explains that broadening the lens beyond personal failure opens up more constructive responses.
What is the difference between blame and accountability according to Keir Gaines?
Gaines draws a sharp distinction: blame grabs all of a person's awareness and feels good briefly in the short term but changes and transforms nothing. Accountability, by contrast, is forward-facing and leads to actual change.
Key takeaways
- Divorce attorney James Sexton distills lasting marriage advice into four words: "You're my favorite person" — a benchmark that outlasts any framework or rule.
- The test isn't about a perfect marriage — it's about whether, after 30 years of real struggle, you'd still choose the same person.
- Sexton argues that being the person who helped your partner become their most authentic self is the highest standard a relationship can meet.
- Mel and Christopher Robbins apply this lens to their own 30-year marriage — including a decade of disconnection — making the advice concrete rather than abstract.