Answer extracted from the How I Built This with Guy Raz podcast — listen to the full episode below.
Kim Vaccarella asked a Chinese neighbor for a manufacturer connection, and he introduced her to a friend whose parents owned a factory in China. There, she discovered that EVA shoes and bags used identical machinery—EVA pellets mixed with color, heated, and cooled into molds to form finished products, giving her immediate insight into the production process.
When Vaccarella decided to move forward with Bogbag after being inspired by Crocs material at the Jersey Shore, she had zero manufacturing experience. Rather than research Alibaba alone or hire consultants, she asked her Chinese neighbor for guidance, a practical first step that proved invaluable.
The neighbor's connection led her directly to factory owners, eliminating the typical intermediary noise. She wasn't reading about manufacturing in articles—she was standing inside an actual EVA production facility, watching the process unfold firsthand and learning the core mechanics of how her product would be made.
The machinery revealed a critical insight: the same equipment that shaped Crocs-like foam shoes could produce tote bags and accessories. EVA pellets—colored, heated, and molded—became the foundation of her entire product line, a discovery that simplified supplier relationships because she could focus on one core material and one type of manufacturer.
This hands-on exposure to the production cycle meant Vaccarella didn't have to negotiate blindly or depend on suppliers' explanations alone. She could see the quality controls, understand the cooling times, and recognize where defects might arise—knowledge that became crucial when her first shipment arrived defective, costing her $30,000 but teaching her to demand better accountability from future manufacturers.
"I will burn this effing factory to the ground. If you sell them, I will burn your factory to the ground."
Kim Vaccarella — Founder and CEO of Bogbag. Vaccarella grew up in Ridgewood, New Jersey with a police officer stepfather and waitress mother, dropped out of high school at 17, and spent 26 years in commercial real estate lending before launching Bogbag in 2011. Her early vulnerability about not feeling "smart enough" to run a business transformed into the assertive quality control stance that would build Bogbag into a $100 million annual revenue company selling close to five million bags.
That intensity reflected her stakes—she had borrowed $120,000 to find a new manufacturer after the first defect, and the full journey from side hustle to full-time entrepreneurship took seven years while she maintained her day job. Every supplier interaction carried weight.
Vaccarella initially did not think she had any business starting a business, felt she was not smart enough, and didn't think she would be taken seriously. However, inspiration struck at the Jersey Shore when she encountered Crocs material while with her family.
Kim Vaccarella kept her day job at the commercial real estate lending office for seven years while building Bogbag. In the early years, she couldn't afford to leave her controller position earning $100,000 per year.
When Vaccarella's first major shipment from China arrived with defective bags, she initially quit the business. However, the customers who had purchased the bags before the defect was discovered drove her to borrow $120,000 and find a new manufacturer.