Answer extracted from the ConPulse - The Construction Podcast podcast — listen to the full episode below.
Moving from estimating to demolition project management forced Aurel to master an entirely different skill set: heavy equipment knowledge, access requirements, and emissions compliance for different building types. More importantly, it exposed him to the gap between theory and practice—and revealed that field crews and laborers, often overlooked, are among the most valuable teachers in construction.
After spending one and a half years behind a computer looking at plans and specifications as an estimator for a midsize concrete paving contractor in San Diego, Aurel's transition to a demolition contractor demanded a complete shift. Estimating had taught him the theory—how to read drawings, calculate quantities, and price work. But demolition required hands-on knowledge that no spreadsheet could provide.
In his new role as an estimator and project manager for a demolition contractor, Aurel had to learn about heavy equipment constraints and building-specific regulations. Different structures have different access requirements, and equipment selection isn't just about efficiency—it's about legal and safety compliance. Emissions concerns, particularly preventing carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide from entering occupied spaces where people might be working, became a critical factor in choosing what machinery could operate inside or near certain buildings.
What surprised Aurel most was the depth of expertise held by the field crews and laborers he worked alongside. As he shares in the podcast episode, he believed that field workers are often not acknowledged as the excellent teachers they truly are. They possess a practical knowledge—how materials actually behave, where hidden challenges emerge, what equipment truly performs under real conditions—that no project manager sitting in an office can acquire.
This respect for field expertise became foundational to how Aurel approached his role. Rather than treating the transition from estimating to project management as a promotion away from the work, he saw it as an opportunity to bridge the gap between what gets planned on paper and what actually succeeds in the field.
"Don't do it for the money. The money will be there, believe me, because it's a difficult industry, but do it because you're passionate, but do most things in life because you're passionate and you will, your life will improve tremendously."
Aurel — Project Engineer at Granite. After earning a civil engineering degree from San Diego State University, Aurel worked his way up through concrete estimating before entering demolition contracting. His philosophy combines respect for labor earned during his landscaping days with the technical precision gained through higher education and field experience.
For a deeper dive into how Aurel's earlier work on a concrete paving crew shaped this mindset, listen to the full episode where he discusses the specific challenges he faced—from operating heavy equipment under fatigue to managing complex drainage calculations that tested both his theory and his field judgment.
Aurel spent a year and a half behind a computer looking at plans and specs, which taught him theory. However, he realized that until you are building it, the real learning begins on the job site.
Aurel's father sent him to work for a landscaper after high school to learn the value of hard work. He dug holes without gloves, causing his hands to bleed. This foundational experience taught him respect for labor and the importance of persistence.